In "The Walker," O'Brian writes:
"One's mental processes, and especially the wandering fantasies that pass through one's mind as one walks, are linked by a chain of association so slight that it usually cannot be traced. A bramble will claw out from a thicket: one pushes on automatically, and then in half an hour one will find that one has been dwelling on the Passion for the last mile of the road."
I love the way he describes feelings/thoughts/sensations this way. He takes an experience that everyone has, and puts it into words so neatly that I don't realize right away how much he has captured some ephemeral notion.
This description of mental processes seems to describe what O'Brian aims at when he writes. He offers up an image, an impression, a hint, a trace, and leaves you with it. If you don't catch it, you don't know what you missed. Sometimes I worry over a word or phrase, CERTAIN that he meant something special by his choice of words, but I can't see it until someone explains something, and then I marvel out how I could have missed it.
Sometimes I don't even catch the trace until someone else smokes it out for us in gunroom. And sometimes it will be so obvious to me that I don't even mention it, and watch agape while others worry over what it could have meant.
O'Brian uses this technique very effectively in this story - he offers up a flash of what the narrator sees on his walk, and the man walks on, and there IS connection between the things he sees and the general tenor of the entire story. Perfect craftsmanship, this tale.
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"Who wishes to be a meagre
sailorman if he can be a learned and enter the government service? Why,
in time you might be an official and never do anything for remainder of
earthly existence. You could grow long fingernails, and become obese and
dignified. " -
Patrick O'Brian
Is The Walker still under discussion?
O'Brian mentions walking past the destroyed German searchlight. A few paragraphs later there's a wet brass ring with a swastika.
Are these references to German things a foreboding of indescribable inexplicable evil to come? Do you see from mention of Germans and swastikas that someone is going to get exterminated for no reason?
--- "P. Richman"
O'Brian mentions walking past the destroyed German
searchlight. A few
paragraphs later there's a wet brass ring with a
swastika.
Are these references to German things a foreboding of
indescribable
inexplicable evil to come? Do you see from mention of
Germans and swastikas
that someone is going to get exterminated for no
reason?
All stories previously discussed remain open for
discussion. "The Walker" is the current story under
discussion.
That's an interesting question. Allusions are hard to
pin down exactly, but yes, I agree with your idea - I
SHOULD have known from the allusions that something
dreadful would happen, but as usual, O'Brian doesn't draw
unmistakeable arrows to his plots - anything can happen
in an O'Brian short story! Thank you for point this out
- it sounds very right.
- Susan
[Note: Don wrote one post on The Soul, The Path, and The Walker. For organizational
purposes, I've divided it into separate parts for each story. -- J.F.]
And finally, The Walker. Again my excitement as I realize that he is
describing himself and his favorite walks in his home of Collioure (other
than his description of himself as a big, heavy man). I am sure from his
detailed account that I could follow the same path and find the same beach
and cliffs. But then that little jump into the "chain of thought"
reference, and the fantasy story of Joseph and Martine Albere. Except for
the end, it is hard to tell whether he is still factually recounting his
experiences in the village. And then the surprising end which reminded me a
bit of the conclusion to "Losing Nelson".
Don Seltzer
Here's a new light on "The Walker:"
Per Dean King's biography of Patrick O'Brian:
When "The Walker" appeared in Harper's Bazaar magazine,
the magazine commented in its editorial note: "A haunting
narrative of strange rretribution, it was construed
differently by every editor on the Bazaar."
In an author;'s note following the story, O'Brian
provided the two origins of the strange tale. The first
was Pdsalm 91, which he quoted roughly: "You shall not
fear the terrors that come by night; nor the arrow that
flies by day, nor the evils prepared in the shadows; nor
the demon that destroys at noonday." In the Latin
version of the psalm, he noted, the demon walks in the
noonday sun.
The second source was a legend O'Brian had heard
concerning three seamen who rob a priest and then die
horrible deaths one at a time on land. O'Brian combined
the two, the narrator being the devil, a man possessed
but who thinks he acts for God.
"The walking, you see," O'Brian explained, "seems to me
an essential part of his madness and his possession; and
clearly the evil men of the local legend are precisely
those who are to fear the horrors of the night, the arrow
that flies by day, the wickedness in the shadows and the
high-noon demon."
===== "Who wishes to be a meagre
sailorman if he can be a learned and enter the government service? Why,
in time you might be an official and never do anything for remainder of
earthly existence. You could grow long fingernails, and become obese and
dignified. " -
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 05:18:18 -0800, Susan quoted in part:
In an author;'s note following the story, O'Brian
provided the two origins of the strange tale. The first
was Psalm 91, which he quoted roughly: "You shall not
fear the terrors that come by night; nor the arrow that
flies by day, nor the evils prepared in the shadows; nor
the demon that destroys at noonday." In the Latin
version of the psalm, he noted, the demon walks in the
noonday sun.
I'll be darned, I read the story aright without knowing it. I think I
sometime think too much about these things. Still very impressed
by the haunting vision of post-war detritus washing ashore along
the Mediterranean. Must have been terrible.
Marshall
"The Walker" is one of O'Brian's most interesting and complex short stories
to date.
The beginning of the story could easily stand on its own, as the narrator
discusses walking, and his attempts to construct a satisfying walk in the
countryside around him. The "real aim of a walk," he says, "for me is a
half-conscious gentle, physical exercise, the perfect accompaniment to
reflection. I do not say that the countryside is anything but superb, and
for one who walks to see magnificence these paths are ideal: but that is not
my aim, and sometimes I long for an ordinary sober country lane, a way
through the level cornfields or a towpath along a quiet river or a sea wall
between salt flats and a marsh." (p. 70, page numbers throughout from Norton
pb).
This first part is excellent, like something out of Samuel Johnson's
Rambler, and the narrator comes off as sympathetic, reflective, and a man
you could easily identify with, especially if you enjoy walking yourself.
In the course of this first part, we learn a bit about the walker: that he
enjoys walking, of course; that he is living in a small village near the
sea; that he lives amongst "quiet and civil" people (p.71); and that he is
"a big, heavy man" (p.70). This physical description is quite important and
is repeated almost verbatim near the story's end ("I am a very big, heavy
man", p.79).
At the end of his synthetically constructed walk, he comes to "a shingle
beach" (p.72) where he occassionally comes across "a savage old man, a
solitary, and I do not speak to him nor him to me" (p.73).
Also at the beach are reminders of the Second World War. (The story appears
to take place in southern France.) There is a "destroyed German
searchlight" and a "huge domed gun-emplacement home" and one day he finds "a
cheap ring, the kind that is sold in fairs" with a swastika upon it: "no
doubt it had belonged to one of the Germans drowned here in the war. The
ring filled me with repulsion, like a thing unclean: the round was so much
the answering shape to the finger that had fitted it that I shuddered and
threw it far into the sea, wiping my hands on the pebbles afterward. A
human finger, by itself without a hand, is a disgusting thing. A human
finger in the sea." (p73)
On another occassion, he finds a human pelvis, presumably from another
drowned German. The walker comments, "Ordinarily, I suppose, a human bone
would raise some emotion, some emotion resembling piety; it would be a
disturbance of decency, a kind of profanation on the shore. But I felt no
such emotion as I sat looking at this bone: I connected it with death, but
with no particular death." (p.74)
Then comes a reflection (previously quoted by Susan) on the general
procession of thoughts through one's mind: "One's mental processes, and
especially the wandering fantasies that pass through one's mind as one
walks, are linked by a chain of association so slight that it usually cannot
be traced. A bramble will claw out from a thicket: one pushes on
automatically, and then in half an hour one will find that one has been
dwelling on the Passion for the last mile of the road." (p.74)
In the next part of the story, we learn a bit about Joseph and Martine
Albčre, the mysterious elderly couple he is living with. Joseph is a man of
wealth, but "not a man of high standing" in the community (p.75). They live
together in their large house, the walker their only lodger, neither of them
going out very much, and never together. At night, one or both of them,
would creep through the house, inspecting each room from the top of the
house to the bottom (pp.75 - 76).
At last, the walker learns the history of M. Albčre from "a Dutch painter",
"a fat, exuberent man" (p.77): Approximately thirty years previously, Albere
and two other villagers were crewmen aboard a packet ship, the
Jules-Bastide, running between France and North Africa. One day, amidst "a
black gale of wind", "one solitary priest, indifferent to the weather,
stayed on the afterdeck" (p.77). This priest carried a mysterious black
valise with him at all times. "In the morning the priest was missing.
Nobody knew anything about it: the official inquiry revealed nothing
whatever." (p.78)
Albčre and his two fellow villagers were the only crew members on that part
of the ship at the time. Soon after, each of them quit the sea and make big
purchases. The first buys a cafe, which burns within a year, killing him
and his wife. The second buys a farm; within three years, his son is killed
in a motorcycle accident and the man hangs himself. Albčre buys the house
and three boats and has been waiting his doom ever since. He and his wife
have brought in the walker "as some kind of protection (the lightning, they
thought, would not strike a house where a just man lived)" (p.78).
Then we get the first clear sign that the walker is mentally unhinged
(quickly and overwhelmingly confirmed in the 2 final pages of the story) as
he reflects, "I had thought that it might be the beginning of the day of
wrath, but when I looked at the stars I found that I was wrong: I had been
unable to move Aldebaran" (p.78).
The full extent of his madness quickly becomes clear:
"I was the hand of God again; the wrath of a jealous God Who spoke through
the prophet and ploughed the Amalekites into the ground. And without any
knowledge I had been set there in my place for a long year past: oh, it was
the sweetest realization in the world, this kindness done to me.
"Clearly I knew it was not for the murder I had been sent: no, no; it was
for accidie. These wicked people had despaired of all forgiveness: they had
hardened their hearts, and for that last wickedness they were to be
destroyed in this world as they were already damned in the next." (p.79)
Between half past three and four o'clock in the morning, he hears the
Albčres on their nocturnal inspections and "run[s] out out with my black
coat over my nakedness, barefoot up behind them." He springs upon them
shrieking, "The priest, the valise, the priest, ha ha ha ha ha." (p.79)
After chasing them around, nearly choking on his own laughter the while, he
ascends the stairs : "I flew, I say, I flew, and smashed them down on
the far stone floor."
And the story ends: "It was finished almost before it had begun. I had
meant a full night's inspired, enormous ecstasy, and I had wasted it in half
an hour. Before it had started it was done: they had died without a mark;
and I had not set the sign." (p.80)
There are numerous things to say about this story.
The short stories have been full of religious references, most of them
fleeting and subtle. "The Walker" brings the religious themes to the
surface: a horrible, distorted, dysfunctional religiosity, which begins
subtlely with an (apparently) passing reference to the Passion (the
betrayal, trial, and death of Jesus). Just what the walker thought of the
Passion is not spelled out: on a first reading we might assume he is
thinking of sacrificial love (Jesus sacrificing His life for the sake of
humanity); but, based on what we later learn about the walker, we might now
think he was thinking of the betrayal or the details of the scourging and
crucifixion.
The fuller manifestation of his dysfunctional religiosity is fairly obvious
(thinking he is the hand of a vengeful God, etc.). O'Brian himself stated
that he meant the walker to be "the devil, a man possessed
but who thinks he acts for God". (Quote is Susan Wenger's summary from her
earlier post of PO'B's comments in Harper's as reported by Dean King. Let's
see: that makes it a fifth-hand quote by me.)
With dysfunctional religiosity comes dysfunctional mental balance, along
with dysfunctional sexual desire (about which more in a moment).
What's the significance of the walker's self description as "a big, heavy
man" (important enough to be stated twice)? I see three possible
significances: first, physically, the walker is precisely the opposite of
O'Brian himself (a small, slim man). Since PO'B is using the first person
throughout, this may be his way of emphasizing that the walker is NOT him.
Second, how do we square the walker's physique with his constant exercise?
If he takes long walks every day (especially in the "blazing heat" (p.70) of
the long summer), why is he so big and fat? The pedestrian explanation
(that he still consumes more calories then he works off in his exercise) may
very well be right, but there are two other intriguing possibilities: (a) he
has some sort of chemical or glandular disorder that may very well have
mental as well as physical effects; or (b) he does not walk at all: his
"walking" all takes place in his mind, in his room at night. (He always
seems to be around when the Albčres are doing something interesting in the
house.)
The final significance of emphasizing the walker's heaviness is that it
emphasizes that he is not a physically attractive man; again, I'll return to
this in a moment.
The incident with the solitary man on the beach I see as a metaphorical,
early warning sign about the walker. The solitary man seems similar to St.
Anthony, or another hermit monk, who lives alone in the desert, and is
visited and tempted by demons, but will have nothing to do with them.
The part about the German ring, pelvic bone, etc., I think is largely an
attempt to misdirect the reader: at this point in the story, the walker
still seems very sympathetic, and the incident seems to confirm his
sensitivity: here's a man, we might think, who is affected by the death of
another, even if that other was the enemy of his country (making the
assumption that the walker was French or English or American; in any event,
on the opposite side as the Germans).
But if we look closely at the walker's reaction, we can see that his
reaction is less horror at the loss of human life than what appears to be an
obsessive-compulsive horror at things being out of the order that he thinks
they should be in. Thus he thinks that a "human finger, by itself without a
hand, is a disgusting thing. A human finger in the sea." (p73), but an
ENTIRE hand would not necessarily provoke the same reaction: he thinks
later, without any apparent squeamishness, of thieves with "their hands cut
off" (p. 78). Similarly, the pelvis, being "white, dry and smooth,
symmetrical and polished to inhumanity" and altogether "like a shell" fit in
with the beach, and was not "a disturbance of decency, a kind of profanation
on the shore" (p.74).
The walker finds the ring to be "a thing unclean", but because of its shape
to the finger that wore it, and the finger not being attached to a hand,
etc., and NOT, as we might assume on a first reading, because of the
swastika on it. The swastika is interesting, in that it introduces Naziism
as an idea (as distinct from the German servicemen) into the story. Naziism
is another theme that has appeared in previous short stories, associated
with evil, and darkness, and now with demonism.
As for the priest story: it appears that the priest was killed by Albčre and
his two fellow villagers and that they stole his valise. What was in the
valise? Money or gold, perhaps, or perhaps it was something like the
monkey's claw (was this a Poe story?), that grants its owner his wish but at
the price of his doom. Now where did the valise, or its contents, come from?
An especially interesting possibility is given if we look at "The Path", the
story immediately before "The Walker" in The Rendezvous and Other Stories.
(I know the stories weren't written in the order in which they appear, but I
am more and more convinced that their placement is no coincidence, but that
certain themes are developed across successive stories.) In "The Path",
there is another myserious priest, and a backpack with unidentified "bad
revelations" (p.68) within it. In "The Walker", is it the same priest? Does
he have in his valise now what was in the backpack previously?
Now let's look more closely at the climactic killings: the walker wears only
his "black coat over [his] nakedness" and as he springs and jumps and runs
about, shrieking, howling, and laughing, we can imagine that his coat is
flying about, exposing the nakedness beneath; and if we look at the language
he uses while on his killing spree -- "delight" (p.79), "pleasure" (p.79),
"I had meant a full night's inspired, enormous ecstasy, and I had wasted it
in half an hour" (p.80) -- the conclusion is inescapable: he is
experienceing a perverse sexual delight in his murders. And remember, he is
a "a big, heavy man" (i.e., not at all physically attractive), thus
stripping the scene of any slight eroticism it may have, and rendering it
all the more obscene.
One final point on the significance of the title, and why I found it
particularly significant:
Ten years ago, I lived in Paris (as part of junior year abroad in college),
and being young and tall (6'2'', which is moderately tall by American
standards, but a giant by French standards), I had no fear about walking the
Paris streets at any hour of the night or day, which I often did, both to
get from point A to point B, and to help me think (the "half-conscious
gentle, physical exercise, the perfect accompaniment to reflection"
mentioned at the beginning of the story).
One night, probably around ten p.m. or so, I was walking along and a young
Frenchman, with shabby clothes, an unshaven face, and fanatic eyes
approached me. "I know you," said he (and this all in French).
Well, I didn't know him, but I was willing to listen for a bit. I didn't
know what he was going to say but I was fairly sure that it would end with
an appeal for money.
"I've seen you," he said, pausing for a moment, then continuing, "You are A
Walker. Yes, a Great Walker (un grand coureur)".
I was still there waiting for the punch line, when he turned and walked off,
looking back at me to shake his head up and down knowingly, as if he'd
solved one of the great mysteries of life, and adding once again, "Yes, A
Great Walker."
I had no idea what he thought he meant by that, and I still don't; but I was
convinced then, and still am, that there was some sort of (literally) insane
explanation. And, no, he wasn't drunk or high, just, as far as I could
tell, mentally disturbed.
And now let's look once more at what O'Brian had to say about his story:
"The walking, you see," said O'Brian, "seems to me an essential part of his
madness and his possession".
Yes, I think that's right; and I think O'Brian had an insight into what
phantasms my interlocutor that night had floating through his mind as he
thought of The Walker, The Great Walker.
John Finneran
Sometimes a story is written from deep within a writer's experience. The best
seem to come from a strongly emotional experience, and I think that "The Rendezvous"
is such a story--the hero, having failed, goes through a mythic passage, a journey
to the underworld in symbolism, before coming back to ordinary life at least
partially restored.
But sometimes a story comes from shallower parts of the writer's mind. When
he sat down to write "The Walker," I can imagine POB saying "What shall I
write today. Well, I've been reading Poe, so I'll do a Poe story about a man
who turns out to be a murderous lunatic, or maybe an avenging angel, or
devil, or both. A horror story, and I'll start off slowly and end with a bang
and, since I'm POB, I'll work a lot of nature stuff into it."
Well, he does start off slowly, more slowly than Poe does. For a couple of
pages, unless you knew what was coming, you wouldn't guess where the story
was going to go. There's vy little foreshadowing, and the world is not quite
a satisfactory place,
but not an ominous place.
But then he sees asphodel, and I'm reminded of the Burning Fields of "The
Rendezvous," wch are the fields of the entrance to the underworld. Asphodel,
of course, is the flower of the dead. So...the little river he walks along,
the river which becomes a tunnel when the hedges on both sides grow over it,
the river at the end of which is a savage, perhaps dangerous man...what river
but Styx, and who is the savage stranger but Charon? Yet I don't see that POB
makes much use of this once he establishes it; however, once the Walker has
passed the Styx, the story begins to plunge downward toward its catastrophe,
wch John Finneran has discussed so excellently.
Charlezzzz
This story begins with a man describing the
walk he has developed, and it reads very like other such descriptions POB has
written so well, in the A&M books; only that the man describes himself as very
big and heavy is it different; none of POB's admirable characters is very heavy,
even JA who is very big;
After reading John Finneran's insightful post, I read the story very
carefully, trying to find when I began to realize that the narrator was
baaad;
at the end, I guess, when he tells us he couldn't make the star move,
was when there was no doubt he was mad, although it could have been a
shorthand for he didn't watch long enough to see the heavens make their
usual rotation;
this was a real horror story, especially the part when he tells us they
died immediately, when he had expected hours and hours of ecstasy,
meaning he would have tortured them is my guess;
and I think a horror story is beneath the really superb writer, because
it's too easy a way to get your readers to feel a "frisson", very
related to a sexual turn-on;
another angle in this story that I really liked was when we're told that
the "victims"' real sin was not the murder of another, but "accidie",
which means despair, lack of hope; and it was for that they had to be
killed by the angel of death the narrator considers himself to be;
the very next story is The Soul, in which the woman, although she's died
and is a disembodied soul, knows she has to keep on trying;
it was probably not a coincidence that these two are in order, and that
POB, something of an existentialist, was telling us that we have no
option in this vale of tears but to do our best, and not to despair even
though the universe never does give us any encouragement.
Isabelle Hayes
Isabelle Hayes wrote:
another angle in this story that I really liked was when we're told that
the "victims"' real sin was not the murder of another, but "accidie", which
means despair, lack of hope; and it was for that they had to be killed by the
angel of death the narrator considers himself to be;
There's a very interesting discussion of accidie at the following web site:
http://www.oflightanddarkness.com/black/accidie.html
(This site appears to be for a role-playing game). All of the below is
copied from this site:
Accidie: rejecting life... is a Middle English word, retrieved because the
usual word, "sloth," now only
expresses a trivial laziness. Accidie is a form of spiritual
despair, a refusal of grace, a bargain with
nothingness that shuts out God's gift of the new possibility.
Usually called sloth, laziness, dejection, passive-aggressiveness,
despair or spiritual depression
nowadays, accidie is a spiritual listlessness or depression, a
reluctance and finally a refusal to respond to
God. Accidie begins at the center, at our relationship with God,
and it stems ultimately from a refusal to
live toward God as dependent creatures made in his image. It is a
passive shrinking from creative
existence. The style of accidie would be to dampen down one's inner
life, living at a minimum level of
mind and heart, letting thoughts and feelings die down.
Accidie is a partial consent to non-being, striking a bargain with
insignificance. Another way to sin by
accidie is to empty out one's self in idle worship rather than
growing toward God, seeking significance in
some other human being or cause or circumstance, scrabbling after a
sense of self-worth.
Self-abdication offers a temporary refuge both from God and from
the nothingness that stalks creative
life. The fruit of accidie is despair. In its terminal form it
finally rejects God's new possibility. It rules out
grace, shutting any opening to the divine life.
Accidie has its full effect when one puts oneself intentionally beyond the
reach of God's mercy. Spiritual withdrawal and depression often start with dishonest
prayer, refusing to raise some issue with God, rejecting a summons, getting
tired of God's silence and walking away. It chooses to live and die on the margins
of its own nothingness rather than launch out further into the abyss of God.
It leaves the self independent from God and in control, even at the price of
self-minimization. Those who bargain with nothingness can avoid surrender to
God.
Charlezzzz wrote:
But then he sees asphodel, and I'm reminded of the Burning Fields of "The
Rendezvous," wch are the fields of the entrance to the underworld. Asphodel,
of course, is the flower of the dead. So...the little river he walks along,
the river which becomes a tunnel when the hedges on both sides grow over it,
the river at the end of which is a savage, perhaps dangerous man...what river
but Styx, and who is the savage stranger but Charon?
Another interesting similarity between "The Walker" and "The Rendezvous" is
the imagery of the towpath, which both protaganists seek.
Thus in "The Walker": "sometimes I long for an ordinary sober country lane,
a way through the level cornfields or towpath along a quiet river" (p. 70).
The walker is unable to find a towpath (or a country lane, etc.) so
constructs his own artificial path.
The narrator in "The Rendezvous" begins by following the towpath (p.108),
but goes off it to the burning fields (p.110), he then feels lost and
menaced, but finally feels safe after finding the towpath again (p. 115)
So if Charlezzzz'z analysis is correct and the river is the Styx, the
towpath is perhaps the proper journey of the soul: going off the path leads
one into the realm of the demoniac. Some are able to get back on the path
(the rendevouser) and some are not (the walker)
John Finneran
One more message on "The Walker" from me tonight:
In the inner story of the priest with the valise, the packet ship is named
the Jules Bastide. The name is given twice (p.77), though there's no
dramatic need to give the name at all, suggesting the name may be
significant.
I did a bit of research on Bastide, and was able to find out a bit (but not
that much) about him: He was a French republican, involved in the 1830 and
1848 revolutions. Between the two revolutions, he edited a republican
newspaper. After 1848 and the beginning of the short lived Second Republic,
he was elected to the Assemblie nationale and served for a few months in
1848 as Foreign Minister. I wasn't able to find out anything about
Bastide's specific beliefs, especially the degree of his anti-clericalism
(common amongst republicans of the era), if any.
The most significant thing related to the story that I was able to find was
that Bastide was a member of the Charbonnerie, a secret society that was the
French equivalent of the Italian Carbonari. Here is some of what the 1908
Catholic Encyclopedia has to say about the Carbonari/Charbonnerie (taken
from
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03330c.htm):
"One of the underlying principles of the society, it is true, was that the
'good brotherhood' rested on religion and virtue; but by this was understood
a purely natural conception of religion, and the mention of religion was
absolutely forbidden. In reality the association was opposed to the Church
... Initiation into the society was accompanied by special ceremonies which,
in the reception into the grade of master, imitated the Passion of Christ in
a manner actually blasphemous. The members were bound by a frightful oath
to observe absolute silence concerning whatever occurred in the vendita
[local assembly]. The similarity between the secret society of the Carbonari
and Freemasonry is evident. Freemasons could enter the Carbonari as masters
at once. The openly-avowed aim of the Carbonari was political: they sought
to bring about a constitutional monarchy or a republic, and to defend the
rights of the people against all forms of absolutism. They did not hesitate
to compass their ends by assassination and armed revolt. As early as the
first years of the nineteenth century the society was widespread in
Neapolitan territory, especially in the Abruzzi and Calabria. Not only men
of low birth but also government officials of high rank, officers, and even
members of the clergy belonged to it."
Note the themes above that may be related to the story: opposition to the
Church, the Passion (or more correctly: a blasphemous imitation of the
Passion), secret assassinations, a conspiracy even encompassing clergymen.
Any additional information on Jules Bastide and the Carbonari/Charbonnerie
would be welcome. (And note that while the actual facts are one thing, the
perception of the facts are also important. The Catholic Encyclopedia's
article, however factually correct it is, most probably represents the
Catholic view of the Charbonnerie, circa 1908, and perhaps also the
metaphorical view PO'B has in mind.)
John Finneran
In a message dated 6/26/0 11:11:47 PM, John.Finneran@PILEOFSHIRTS.COM writes:
the
towpath is perhaps the proper journey of the soul
Yes. Consider what happens on a towpath: it's used to pull along a heavy
burden wch cd not otherwise be brought to its destination.
Charlezzzz
Damn, you guys are good at this stuff! Now did POB just
subconsciously filter all of these allusions in, or actually THINK about them,
or is it all a great conspiracy of coincidence and serendipity, like the salt?
Rowen
In a message
dated 6/27/0 10:48:22 AM, Rowen84 writes:
Now did POB just subconsciously filter all of these allusions in, or actually
THINK about them, or is it all a great conspiracy of coincidence and serendipity,
like the salt?
Yes. In the same way that the original dust jacket of Joyce's Ulysses is Blue
and White.
Charlezzzz
Is The Walker still under discussion?
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